Thursday, 12 August 2004 12:37 pm
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Dear cammies doing that latest meme:

Not All Saints Were Martyrs, Okay?

Love,

Your Friendly Neighbourhood Lapsed Catholic.

Date: Thursday, 12 August 2004 11:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suave-steve.livejournal.com
You know this, and I know this.

In fact probably a few people know this, but deciding how to be martyred makes better enstertainment :)

Date: Thursday, 12 August 2004 11:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twicedead.livejournal.com
If we were to become saints, we'd pretty much have to be martyred. It's the only way we'll get anywhere near the miracle requirements.

Let's face it, half the Saints keep getting banned, altered and re-imagined... like poor St Christopher.

Your friendly neighbourhood employee of the Catholic Church

Date: Thursday, 12 August 2004 12:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twicedead.livejournal.com
And you can be the Patron Saint of Lapsed Catholics. :p

Date: Thursday, 12 August 2004 12:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bopeepsheep.livejournal.com
My great-great uncle (Don Luigi Sturzo) is in the process of becoming a saint. He was not martyred, although Mussolini did exile him from Italy and force him to live in Oxford, London, and New York (oh, the cruelty) during WWII.

Date: Thursday, 12 August 2004 12:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twicedead.livejournal.com
Go team!

I want to become a saint for living in New York.

What were his miracles?

Date: Thursday, 12 August 2004 12:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bopeepsheep.livejournal.com
Not sure (most of the stuff I can find is in Italian, mine isn't fluent and Google's is worse) but I think they're going for "Heroic Virtues" rather than miracles. He founded Il Partito Popolare, which today is the Italian Christian Democrat party, was a senator (post-war) and sociologist, as well as priest, teacher, rescuer/champion of his home town's pottery business, and novelist/playwright. Renaissance Man. :) (His brother (Mario) was the Bishop of Piazza Armerina for 38 years, their youngest sister Giulia was my great-grandmother. I vaguely remember meeting her but she was in her nineties at the time and I was about seven.) He is described as "priest-politician" in most references. Cardinal Camillo Ruini (papal vicar of Rome) formally started the canonization process in May 2002, and I don't know how long these things usually take or what steps have to be gone through, since I'm actually not Catholic. (What a waste of a good heritage, eh?)

Date: Thursday, 12 August 2004 11:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riksowden.livejournal.com
:p

That is all i have to say

St. Rik

Date: Thursday, 12 August 2004 01:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ukmonty.livejournal.com
Being cammies is Martyrdom!

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