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taimatsu ([personal profile] taimatsu) wrote2007-10-08 10:11 am

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I have just had my first lecture of the year - the introductory session for Women's Writing 1. This involved defining feminism, mostly, and the horrible but not unexpected discovery that about six of the 60 predominantly female people in the room defined themselves as feminist. Gaaaaah!

Also Gaaaaaah was the thing where the lecturer was talking about an essay on basic feminism which discusses the terms 'feminist' 'female' and 'feminine', and dismissed biological sex - 'female' - as binary 'apart from a few hermaphrodites and things'. I was so cross. I know a variety of people who are women but for whom the biological clues to 'sex' are not straightforwardly female - whether that's because of a chromosomal disorder, or physical intersexedness, or being transsexual/transgendered. The lecturer has no idea if one of those people is in the room, and I was cross that she made them invisible and used what I suspect is rather an inappropriate term for the biologically different. She's my seminar leader so I might be able to tackle her about it tomorrow, though it's tricky when I'm not in that group myself.

Similarly, she was talking about the prevailing image of feminism as all about 'hairy humourless lesbians'; while it's *true* that that's what people think, what if I *had* been a hairy lesbian? It really sounded very dismissive, and her talk didn't make any compensatory mention of the contributions lesbian community has made to the women's movement.

I think I sound way too 'right-on' here, but then the whole point of the lecture was to make the girls who go 'eww, I'm not a feminist!' think again. Maybe it ought to make me think again about saying 'erk, I'm not one of those radical queer folks!' (Actually, I think I'm not, but I get the feeling if I make the fairly basic points above about sex and gender non-hegemony, I'll be thought of as one.)

It makes me nervous to think of saying any of this in a seminar, but I want that to be a safe(r) space where I can talk about, you know, lesbians and queer politics if it's relevant without being afraid to come out. *sigh*

Thoughts most welcome. Anyone got any experience with feminist literary criticism or feminist writing in general? I'm making this public so I can link to it in a community.

[identity profile] mollydot.livejournal.com 2007-10-08 03:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I understand you don't want to focus on one type of equality, so don't declare yourself a feminist, or anti-racist, or whatever. But you seem to be self-defining as "not a feminist", which to me implies you don't believe in equality between the sexes, just like defining as "not an anti-racist" would give the impression that you think racism is ok.

[identity profile] madwitch.livejournal.com 2007-10-08 03:36 pm (UTC)(link)
No, I am self defining as an egalitarian. This means equality for all, including between the sexes. I am not sure how many more times I can say this, or how many more times I should need to. In the comment directly above yours when I look at this post, I state quite clearly that I do, of course, agree with the core ideals of the feminist movement, but that as this is part of the egalitarian thing, this doesn't make me a feminist. However, it seems that several people think that I am wrong and am really a feminist, or suddenly not a believer in equality at all.
Can you really not just accept that I DO NOT define as feminist, but DO self define as egalitarian? Why is it so very difficult for people to stop telling me what it is they think I really think?

[identity profile] mollydot.livejournal.com 2007-10-08 03:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry. I didn't mean I actually thought you disagreed, as you've mad it quite clear you don't. I just meant that one fact alone without any context implies it.
I apologise for continuing with that topic.

[identity profile] madwitch.livejournal.com 2007-10-08 03:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Without context, it would, of course. But as you've said, I've made it quite clear several times that this is not the case.

I just find it laughable that several self defining members of a movement that is about equality and choice feel the need to repeatedly imply that I don't know my own mind, and I am what they say I am really. Really helping the image of feminism there.